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“In the Orthodox Church alone is grace given through the sacraments (most other churches don’t even claim to have sacraments in any serious sense)...they (heretics) cannot be objectively Christian as belonging to the Body of Christ and receiving the grace of the sacraments.”
– Fr. Seraphim Rose
“...To "lead a perfectly righteous life," as the questioner expressed it, means to live according to the commandments of the Beatitudes—which is beyond the power of one, outside the Orthodox Church, without the help of grace which is concealed within it.” – Metropolitan Philaret of NY
“They have separated themselves from the unity of the Ecumenical Church and are deprived of God’s grace, which abides in Christ’s Church… And all the actions and sacraments performed by the bishops and priests who have fallen away from the Church are without grace; while the faithful who take part with them in prayer and sacraments not only do not receive sanctification, they are subject to condemnation for taking part in sin.” – St. Tikhon of Patriarch of Moscow
“None of them find themselves under the activity of the grace which is present in the Church, and especially the grace which is given in the Mysteries of the Church.” – Fr. Michael Pomazansky
“It is clear that by this regulation the Church does not recognize in heretics and schismatics either the priesthood or the other mysteries, and considers them subject to ecclesiastical baptism in the nature of things.” and “...the Church by receiving Latins into communion in the same way as Nestorians (Council of Trullo, 95) does not make any distinction between old heresies and the Latin one. I think that the Latins are considerably further from the Church and they are worse than Monophysites and Monophelites, because they created a second Christ, i.e., the antichrist in the person of the Pope, who is supposedly infallible...” – Metropolitan Anthony Khrapovitsky
“Those who... do not distinguish the priesthood and mysteries of the Church from those of the heretics, but say that the baptism and eucharist of heretics is effectual for salvation...anathema!” – From the ROCOR anathema of 1983 under the Presidency of Metropolitan Philaret
“No, the truth of ecclesiastical unity does not recognize the grace of the mysteries administered within extra-ecclesiastical communities...the reception of Latins nowadays without baptism does not at all convince me that the Latin mysteries are valid in themselves” – St. Hilarion Troitsky
> St. Paisius Velichkovsky “was so apprehensive about heresies and schisms that all who were converted, whether from sects or from the western Latin heresies, he baptized...” – The Moldavian ascetic Schema-monk John who was a contemporary of St. Paisius
“What should we say in response to these questions: can the Latin Church and other religions be called the New Israel and ark of salvation? And how can one understand the Eucharist of this Church of Rome? Only the Church of the right-believing, undamaged by heretical philosophizing, can be called the New Israel. Holy Apostle John the Theologian says, They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they all were not of us (1 Jn. 2:19). And Holy Apostle Paul says, One Lord, one faith (Eph. 4:5), i.e. one is the true faith, and not every belief is good--as those having separated themselves from the one true Church recklessly think, about whom Holy Apostle Jude writes, How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit (Jude 1:18-19). Therefore, how can these, who are alien to the spirit of truth, be called the New Israel? Or, how can they be called a haven of salvation for anyone, when both one and the other cannot be effectuated without the grace of the Holy Spirit? In the Orthodox Church, it is believed that the bread and wine in the mystery of the Eucharist are transubstantiated by the invocation and descent of the Holy Spirit. But the Latins, as mentioned above, considered this invocation unnecessary and excluded it from their Liturgy. Thus, he who understands--let him understand about the Eucharist of the Latins.” – St. Ambrose of Optina
"The heterodox, by their very heterodoxy, have separated themselves from the communion of the Mysteries of the Orthodox Church.” – Metropolitan Philaret of Moscow
“All of us who are children of the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic, Ecumenical Church ought not to be guided by our own reasonings in questions which arise concerning the doctrine of our Faith, since these reasonings may be erroneous. Rather in such instances we must apply the canons which give us guidance. These canons are contained primarily in a book called The Rudder, a collection of the canons of the holy Apostles, the holy Ecumenical and Local Councils and those of several of the holy Fathers. At the end of The Rudder (Russian edition) in a chapter called "Concerning the Apostasy of Rome — how she fell away from the Orthodox Faith and from the Holy Eastern Church," the Pope of Rome and his followers, who wrongly call themselves catholics, are termed heretics. There is nothing to be said about the other Protestant Christian confessions, inasmuch as they have departed even further from Orthodoxy...But how does a person achieve salvation? One of the chief conditions for the attainment to salvation is repentance... But even if the non-Orthodox or heretic were to desire to offer repentance before an Orthodox priest, his repentance for his sins would be ineffective. We read in Part I, Question 113 of The Orthodox Confession: "What must we observe in the mystery of repentance? Answer: First of all, we must observe that the penitent is a Christian of the Orthodox and Catholic Faith, for repentance without the True Faith is not repentance and is not received by God." All of this is said concerning living Christians who believe incorrectly or concerning heretics...Our Holy Church unfailingly requires of every heterodox person desiring to be in communion with Her that he publicly before the entire Church, renounce his errors and receive pure Christian doctrine. If it were possible to offer prayers in church for the salvation of the souls of heterodox who have reposed, the Church in her divine services would employ special petitions for them. There is no such thing in any of our church services. On the contrary, on the First Sunday of the Great Fast, our Holy Church pronounces anathema, that is, separation from unity with herself, on all heretics and apostates from Orthodoxy, which would include Roman Catholics and Protestants.” – St. Joseph of Optina
“They [use] dead Latin substances and perform a Liturgy in which there is no life...” – St. Theodosius of Kiev
"The Western Church, has distorted the image of Christ, having been transformed from a Church into a Roman state and incarnated it again in the form of the papacy. Yes, in the West there is in truth no longer Christianity and the Church, although there are still many Christians - yes, and they will never disappear. Catholicism is truly no longer Christianity, and is passing into idol-worship...” – Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky
“The (Russian Orthodox) say that all subordinate to the Church of Rome are not true Christians and are not saved...They profane, blaspheme, mock and despise all the sacraments of the (Latin) Church.” – A Roman catholic bishop stated this at the Lateran (Papal) council of 1514
“...All heretics of every different heretical faith are deprived of the true, holy baptism...” and “From the beginning of the Russian state until now, there has never been a case where Latin heretics and heretics of other faiths were not baptized except for the case of Ignatius the Patriarch who was deposed..." – Patriarch Philaret of Moscow
“The first important stage on the path of this "apostasy" was the falling away from Orthodoxy of the Latin West, with the papal throne at its head... Only the appearance of Christianity was left, its exterior, deprived of the true spirit of life in Christ.” – Archbishop Averky (Taushev)
“Se han separado de la unidad de la Iglesia Ecuménica y están privados de la gracia de Dios, que habita en la Iglesia de Cristo… Y todas las acciones y sacramentos realizados por los obispos y sacerdotes que se han apartado de la Iglesia son sin gracia; mientras que los fieles que participan con ellos en la oración y los sacramentos no solo no reciben la santificación, sino que están sujetos a condenación por participar en el pecado." - San Tikhon del Patriarca de Moscú
“Está claro que por este reglamento la Iglesia no reconoce a los herejes y cismáticos ni el sacerdocio ni los demás misterios, y los considera sujetos al bautismo eclesiástico en la naturaleza de las cosas." y “... la Iglesia al recibir a los latinos en comunión de la misma manera que a los nestorianos (Concilio de Trullo, 95) no hace ninguna distinción entre las antiguas herejías y la latina. Creo que los latinos están bastante más lejos de la Iglesia y son peores que los monofisitas y monofelitas, porque crearon un segundo Cristo, es decir, el anticristo en la persona del Papa, que supuestamente es infalible ... ” - Metropolitano Anthony Khrapovitsky
“¿Qué debemos decir en respuesta a estas preguntas: ¿se puede llamar a la Iglesia Latina y otras religiones el Nuevo Israel y el Arca de la Salvación? ¿Y cómo se puede entender la Eucaristía de esta Iglesia de Roma? Sólo la Iglesia de los creyentes correctos, no dañada por el filosofar herético, puede ser llamada el Nuevo Israel. El Santo Apóstol Juan el Teólogo dice: Salieron de nosotros, pero no eran de nosotros; porque si hubieran sido de nosotros, sin duda habrían permanecido con nosotros; pero salieron para que se manifestara que no todos eran de nosotros (1 Jn. 2:19). Y el Santo Apóstol Pablo dice: Un Señor, una fe (Efesios 4: 5), es decir, una es la fe verdadera, y no toda creencia es buena, como piensan imprudentemente los que se han separado de la única Iglesia verdadera, acerca de quien Santo El apóstol Judas escribe: Cómo les dijeron que debería haber burladores en el último tiempo, que deberían caminar según sus propias concupiscencias impías. Estos son los que se separan, sensuales, sin el Espíritu (Judas 1: 18-19). Por lo tanto, ¿cómo pueden estos, que son ajenos al espíritu de la verdad, ser llamados el Nuevo Israel? O, ¿cómo se les puede llamar un puerto de salvación para alguien, cuando tanto uno como el otro no pueden realizarse sin la gracia del Espíritu Santo? En la Iglesia Ortodoxa, se cree que el pan y el vino en el misterio de la Eucaristía son transubstanciados por la invocación y descenso del Espíritu Santo. Pero los latinos, como se mencionó anteriormente, consideraron innecesaria esta invocación y la excluyeron de su liturgia. Por lo tanto, el que comprende, que comprenda acerca de la Eucaristía de los latinos." - San Ambrosio de Optina
"Los heterodoxos, por su propia heterodoxia, se han separado de la comunión de los Misterios de la Iglesia Ortodoxa.". - Filaret metropolitano de Moscú
"La Iglesia occidental, ha distorsionado la imagen de Cristo, tras haber sido transformada de Iglesia en estado romano y encarnándola de nuevo en la forma del papado. Sí, en Occidente en verdad ya no hay cristianismo ni Iglesia, aunque todavía hay muchos cristianos - sí, y nunca desaparecerán. El catolicismo ya no es verdaderamente cristianismo y está pasando a la adoración de ídolos ... " - Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky
“In the Orthodox Church alone is grace given through the sacraments (most other churches don’t even claim to have sacraments in any serious sense)...they (heretics) cannot be objectively Christian as belonging to the Body of Christ and receiving the grace of the sacraments.”
– Fr. Seraphim Rose
“...To "lead a perfectly righteous life," as the questioner expressed it, means to live according to the commandments of the Beatitudes—which is beyond the power of one, outside the Orthodox Church, without the help of grace which is concealed within it.” – Metropolitan Philaret of NY
“They have separated themselves from the unity of the Ecumenical Church and are deprived of God’s grace, which abides in Christ’s Church… And all the actions and sacraments performed by the bishops and priests who have fallen away from the Church are without grace; while the faithful who take part with them in prayer and sacraments not only do not receive sanctification, they are subject to condemnation for taking part in sin.” – St. Tikhon of Patriarch of Moscow
“None of them find themselves under the activity of the grace which is present in the Church, and especially the grace which is given in the Mysteries of the Church.” – Fr. Michael Pomazansky
“It is clear that by this regulation the Church does not recognize in heretics and schismatics either the priesthood or the other mysteries, and considers them subject to ecclesiastical baptism in the nature of things.” and “...the Church by receiving Latins into communion in the same way as Nestorians (Council of Trullo, 95) does not make any distinction between old heresies and the Latin one. I think that the Latins are considerably further from the Church and they are worse than Monophysites and Monophelites, because they created a second Christ, i.e., the antichrist in the person of the Pope, who is supposedly infallible...” – Metropolitan Anthony Khrapovitsky
“Those who... do not distinguish the priesthood and mysteries of the Church from those of the heretics, but say that the baptism and eucharist of heretics is effectual for salvation...anathema!” – From the ROCOR anathema of 1983 under the Presidency of Metropolitan Philaret
“No, the truth of ecclesiastical unity does not recognize the grace of the mysteries administered within extra-ecclesiastical communities...the reception of Latins nowadays without baptism does not at all convince me that the Latin mysteries are valid in themselves” – St. Hilarion Troitsky
> St. Paisius Velichkovsky “was so apprehensive about heresies and schisms that all who were converted, whether from sects or from the western Latin heresies, he baptized...” – The Moldavian ascetic Schema-monk John who was a contemporary of St. Paisius
“What should we say in response to these questions: can the Latin Church and other religions be called the New Israel and ark of salvation? And how can one understand the Eucharist of this Church of Rome? Only the Church of the right-believing, undamaged by heretical philosophizing, can be called the New Israel. Holy Apostle John the Theologian says, They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they all were not of us (1 Jn. 2:19). And Holy Apostle Paul says, One Lord, one faith (Eph. 4:5), i.e. one is the true faith, and not every belief is good--as those having separated themselves from the one true Church recklessly think, about whom Holy Apostle Jude writes, How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit (Jude 1:18-19). Therefore, how can these, who are alien to the spirit of truth, be called the New Israel? Or, how can they be called a haven of salvation for anyone, when both one and the other cannot be effectuated without the grace of the Holy Spirit? In the Orthodox Church, it is believed that the bread and wine in the mystery of the Eucharist are transubstantiated by the invocation and descent of the Holy Spirit. But the Latins, as mentioned above, considered this invocation unnecessary and excluded it from their Liturgy. Thus, he who understands--let him understand about the Eucharist of the Latins.” – St. Ambrose of Optina
"The heterodox, by their very heterodoxy, have separated themselves from the communion of the Mysteries of the Orthodox Church.” – Metropolitan Philaret of Moscow
“All of us who are children of the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic, Ecumenical Church ought not to be guided by our own reasonings in questions which arise concerning the doctrine of our Faith, since these reasonings may be erroneous. Rather in such instances we must apply the canons which give us guidance. These canons are contained primarily in a book called The Rudder, a collection of the canons of the holy Apostles, the holy Ecumenical and Local Councils and those of several of the holy Fathers. At the end of The Rudder (Russian edition) in a chapter called "Concerning the Apostasy of Rome — how she fell away from the Orthodox Faith and from the Holy Eastern Church," the Pope of Rome and his followers, who wrongly call themselves catholics, are termed heretics. There is nothing to be said about the other Protestant Christian confessions, inasmuch as they have departed even further from Orthodoxy...But how does a person achieve salvation? One of the chief conditions for the attainment to salvation is repentance... But even if the non-Orthodox or heretic were to desire to offer repentance before an Orthodox priest, his repentance for his sins would be ineffective. We read in Part I, Question 113 of The Orthodox Confession: "What must we observe in the mystery of repentance? Answer: First of all, we must observe that the penitent is a Christian of the Orthodox and Catholic Faith, for repentance without the True Faith is not repentance and is not received by God." All of this is said concerning living Christians who believe incorrectly or concerning heretics...Our Holy Church unfailingly requires of every heterodox person desiring to be in communion with Her that he publicly before the entire Church, renounce his errors and receive pure Christian doctrine. If it were possible to offer prayers in church for the salvation of the souls of heterodox who have reposed, the Church in her divine services would employ special petitions for them. There is no such thing in any of our church services. On the contrary, on the First Sunday of the Great Fast, our Holy Church pronounces anathema, that is, separation from unity with herself, on all heretics and apostates from Orthodoxy, which would include Roman Catholics and Protestants.” – St. Joseph of Optina
“They [use] dead Latin substances and perform a Liturgy in which there is no life...” – St. Theodosius of Kiev
"The Western Church, has distorted the image of Christ, having been transformed from a Church into a Roman state and incarnated it again in the form of the papacy. Yes, in the West there is in truth no longer Christianity and the Church, although there are still many Christians - yes, and they will never disappear. Catholicism is truly no longer Christianity, and is passing into idol-worship...” – Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky
“The (Russian Orthodox) say that all subordinate to the Church of Rome are not true Christians and are not saved...They profane, blaspheme, mock and despise all the sacraments of the (Latin) Church.” – A Roman catholic bishop stated this at the Lateran (Papal) council of 1514
“...All heretics of every different heretical faith are deprived of the true, holy baptism...” and “From the beginning of the Russian state until now, there has never been a case where Latin heretics and heretics of other faiths were not baptized except for the case of Ignatius the Patriarch who was deposed..." – Patriarch Philaret of Moscow
“The first important stage on the path of this "apostasy" was the falling away from Orthodoxy of the Latin West, with the papal throne at its head... Only the appearance of Christianity was left, its exterior, deprived of the true spirit of life in Christ.” – Archbishop Averky (Taushev)
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“Solo en la Iglesia Ortodoxa se da la gracia a través de los sacramentos (la mayoría de las otras iglesias ni siquiera afirman tener sacramentos en un sentido serio) ... ellos (herejes) no pueden ser objetivamente cristianos como pertenecientes al Cuerpo de Cristo y recibiendo la gracia de los sacramentos." - P. Seraphim Rose > “..." Llevar una vida perfectamente justa," como lo expresó el interlocutor, significa vivir de acuerdo con los mandamientos de las Bienaventuranzas, lo cual está más allá del poder de uno, fuera de la Iglesia Ortodoxa, sin la ayuda de la gracia que está escondido dentro de ella." - Filaret Metropolitano de Nueva York
“Ninguno de ellos se encuentra bajo la actividad de la gracia que está presente en la Iglesia, y especialmente la gracia que se da en los Misterios de la Iglesia." - P. Michael Pomazansky
"Aquellos que ... no distinguen el sacerdocio y los misterios de la Iglesia de los de los herejes, pero dicen que el bautismo y la eucaristía de los herejes es eficaz para la salvación ... ¡anatema!" - Del anatema de ROCOR de 1983 bajo la presidencia del Metropolitano Filaret
“No, la verdad de la unidad eclesiástica no reconoce la gracia de los misterios administrados dentro de las comunidades extra-eclesiásticas ... la recepción de latinos hoy en día sin bautismo no me convence en absoluto de que los misterios latinos sean válidos en sí mismos” - San Hilarión Troitsky
San Paisius Velichkovsky "estaba tan preocupado por las herejías y cismas que todos los que se convirtieron, ya fueran de sectas o de herejías latinas occidentales, bautizó ..." - El monje-esquema ascético de Moldavia John, contemporáneo de San Paisio
“Todos los que somos hijos de la Iglesia Una, Santa, Católica, Apostólica, Ecuménica, no debemos guiarnos por nuestros propios razonamientos en las cuestiones que surgen acerca de la doctrina de nuestra Fe, ya que estos razonamientos pueden ser erróneos. Más bien, en tales casos debemos aplicar los cánones que nos guían. Estos cánones están contenidos principalmente en un libro llamado El Timón, una colección de los cánones de los santos apóstoles, los santos concilios ecuménicos y locales y los de varios de los santos padres. Al final de El timón (edición rusa) en un capítulo titulado "Concerniente a la apostasía de Roma: cómo se apartó de la fe ortodoxa y de la Santa Iglesia Oriental," el Papa de Roma y sus seguidores, que erróneamente se llaman católicos , se denominan herejes. No hay nada que decir sobre las otras confesiones cristianas protestantes, ya que se han alejado aún más de la ortodoxia ... Pero, ¿cómo logra una persona la salvación? Una de las principales condiciones para el logro de la salvación es el arrepentimiento ... Pero incluso si los no ortodoxos o herejes desearan ofrecer el arrepentimiento ante un sacerdote ortodoxo, su arrepentimiento por sus pecados sería ineficaz. Leemos en la Parte I, Pregunta 113 de La Confesión Ortodoxa: "¿Qué debemos observar en el misterio del arrepentimiento? Respuesta: En primer lugar, debemos observar que el penitente es un cristiano de fe ortodoxa y católica, para el arrepentimiento sin el La verdadera fe no es arrepentimiento y no es recibida por Dios ". Todo esto se dice de los cristianos vivos que creen incorrectamente o de los herejes ... Nuestra Santa Iglesia exige infaliblemente de todo heterodoxo que desee estar en comunión con Ella, que públicamente ante toda la Iglesia, renuncie a sus errores y reciba la pura doctrina cristiana. Si fuera posible ofrecer oraciones en la iglesia por la salvación de las almas de los heterodoxos que han reposado, la Iglesia en sus servicios divinos emplearía peticiones especiales para ellos. No existe tal cosa en ninguno de los servicios de nuestra iglesia. Por el contrario, en el primer domingo del Gran Ayuno, nuestra Santa Iglesia pronuncia anatema, es decir, la separación de la unidad consigo misma, a todos los herejes y apóstatas de la ortodoxia, que incluiría a católicos romanos y protestantes." - San José de Optina
“Usan sustancias latinas muertas y celebran una liturgia en la que no hay vida ...” - San Teodosio de Kiev
"Los (ortodoxos rusos) dicen que todos los subordinados a la Iglesia de Roma no son verdaderos cristianos y no son salvos ... Profanan, blasfeman, se burlan y desprecian todos los sacramentos de la Iglesia (latina)." - Un obispo católico romano declaró esto en el concilio de Letrán (Papal) de 1514
“... Todos los herejes de cada fe herética diferente están privados del verdadero y santo bautismo ...” y “Desde el comienzo del estado ruso hasta ahora, nunca ha habido un caso donde los herejes latinos y herejes de otras religiones fueran no bautizado excepto en el caso de Ignacio el Patriarca que fue depuesto ... " - Patriarca Filaret de Moscú
“La primera etapa importante en el camino de esta apostasía fue el alejamiento de la ortodoxia del Occidente latino, con el trono papal a la cabeza ... Solo quedó la apariencia del cristianismo, su exterior, privado del verdadero espíritu de vida en Cristo." - Arzobispo Averky (Taushev)
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